I'M A LOOSE CANNON CAN'T DELIVER MY JOKES IN PIDGIN - WALE GATES
Wale Gates is a UK based Nigerian comedian. He's not the average Nigerian comedian hanging on to Pidgin or Warri accents and stories to drive home his point. On this brief visit to Nigeria, Wale talks on his kind of comedy, family and also, provides tips on how a comedy business can be developed in Nigeria.
What are you doing in Nigeria?
I will say, spending the holiday in business, holiday in work. I am trying to promote the brand.
People say that you are very big in the U.K, how true is that?
I will be modest enough to say that it is not true but I will also say that there are very few people who could take that title. In a way I can say it is true but I will be modest enough to say it is not true because I still want to get bigger.
So what have you been doing in the past years in the U.K?
I am basically breaking new grounds. Touring new markets, doing comedy clubs in Europe, America, just trying to break new markets basically, I just make out time also to be in Nigeria.
You were there when D'banj became big, how was it?
They called him on stage in 2004, when he came on stage, who asked 'who you be?' and by the time he finished performing, everybody was wowed. Everybody knew that we had just witnessed someone who was just about to blow and I mean, he is there right now.
Do you miss Nigeria at all?
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. I don't because sometime, Nigeria does not give room for my own kind of creativity. To be a comedian, you are not given the freedom to be too intelligent. So, sometimes I don't miss it.
I miss it because; it is still home to me. This is where I started in 2002. I started my career in the University of Lagos where I studied Economics.
Were you part of Theatre 15?
Yes. Theater 15 started a year after I started comedy so it's been great. It's been a long journey to get to where I am.
That must mean that you owe something to Tee A?
I owe something to, not just to Tee A, but to Teju Babyface, Ali Baba, Kofi, Kayode Peters as well. They have been in this business of entertainment before me. If they did not set up that platform, people like me won't be there. So, I am grateful.
What is wrong with Nigerian comedy industry?
This is the part where I put my foot in. It is not an industry. We do not have an industry yet because if we have an industry, we have to have genres, different styles, and different angles to comedy. We don't have that.
In the U.K, you find different genres, different styles. There are people who do alternative comedy, contemporary comedy; there are people who do satire. There are different styles that you can wing your comedy into.
In Nigeria, you can't. When you get to Nigeria, it is almost like an association, with all due respect and it is not me being rude. The faces are changing but the jokes don't change. That is what happens in an association.
That is where you get a case of hear a particular joke over and over.
What is your own style of comedy?
I do a lot of observational comedy but it is also very critical of where we are, where we want to go and where we want to be. I also do some conscious stuff. The conscious comes when you see something, the rest of the world probably doesn't see it that way but you show it to them. Some people might call it necessary intelligence.
Does Lanre, your wife, like what you do?
Sometimes she is more like 'Wale do it the way they do it' there is no need for the way you want to do it.
Where did you meet Lanre?
I met her the day I was going to chase women at Faguwa in Unilag and she opened the door and I told a friend of mine, 'this girl, you will introduce me to her right?' We just got talking from there and seven years on we are married now, expecting our first child by ending of January.
So, are you prepared for that first child?
Not really. I am prepared but I am also not prepared because until the baby lands in your hand, you probably don't know how to start. For someone like me that is naturally disorganised, it's good because it will kind of help me in a way. I am expecting a baby and I am writing materials about what I am going to experience and I am looking forward to it.
Does it have a name yet?
My wife keeps telling me not to choose a silly name for the baby.
Do you know if it is a she or he?
That I will keep to myself for now.
How often do you get to perform with some Nigerian comedians that go to London to have shows?
I do the ones that I can. Sometimes I work with Julius, for Basketmouth, sometimes I would be on his bill while other times I won't. Sometimes they have their own people and I don't have a problem with that because they have to follow people who have their style who they want to promote. With all due respect, I have my own style. I have a way I talk and I hardly do my comedy in Pidgin English.
The last time I checked, you were a Chelsea fan, are you still their fan?
I am still a Chelsea fan.
Why is that?
I think I could not afford an Arsenal jersey when I was young. I started following Jose Mourinho for a long time.
He is determined and arrogant, not arrogant in a bad way. He talks and works with what he says. That dragged me to Chelsea.
You are said to be very arrogant while on stage, any reason for choosing that kind of personality for your career?
When I started in the industry, I never had that kind of a name that sounded funny. I don't look funny, I don't talk funny, I did not grow up in Warri where you got the funny childhood story that people like. So when I got on stage most days I had to be really harsh and that metamorphosed into me being rude.
I just say what I feel. I am a loose canon, I won't just insult anybody but I try to bring out the joke in any thing I want to present.
Is that also your real personality outside the stage?
In real life, I am almost like that too, but I also give room to when I am wrong. I am not always right and I admit when I am not right.
Do you write a script for every joke you present on stage?
Yes I do. I think about materials and issues I want to write on. The most important thing is to pass a message with the jokes that you are presenting to people.
You are already big in the industry, how big do you still want to be in this career?
I just want to conquer the world. That is how big I want to get. To me, it's not just about fame. If I wanted fame, I would be in Nigeria and all I need to do is be on TV everyday and on the newspapers everyday. I want to be big enough to make sure that people recognise comedians and comedy as a proper profession.
From the way you are speaking, you are likely not going to give a second thought to the course you studied in the University?
Not just the course I studied in UniLag, I also have Masters degree in Business Management. Comedy is giving me the kind of what I want. Comedy is a calling and I am satisfied with it.